Justin and Stephen think through the recent developments in American society. They are joined by Pastor John P. Perkins, grandson of civil rights leader Dr. John M. Perkins, who just celebrated his 90th birthday. Together, they discuss Dr. Perkins’ legacy in Pastor John’s life, as well as reflections on George Floyd and the protests that have followed.

Part 2 will be aired in Episode 13.

Resources from this episode:

Danger of a single story TED Talk

MS State Senator’s reference to a hanging

Al Sharpton’s speech at the Minneapolis memorial for George Floyd

When Helping Hurts

Up from Slavery by Booker T. Washington

The Autobiography of Malcom X as told to Alex Haley

Race the Power of An Illusion

Race the Power of An Illusion companion website

The Trouble with Racial Reconciliation by Dr. Kenneth Young

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