In the second half of their conversation with John P. Perkins, Justin and Stephen consider the problems with colorblindness and the necessity of deconstructing race. They also discuss practical ways forward for each of them.

Part 1 was aired in Episode 12.

Resources from this episode:

20 20 20 Economic Justice and Equity Initiative Petition and Explanation

Postulating Solutions Podcast with John Perkins and Anthony D. Bobo, Jr.

Commissioned to Love by Perkins and Bobo

Danger of a single story TED Talk

MS State Senator’s reference to a hanging

Al Sharpton’s speech at the Minneapolis memorial for George Floyd

When Helping Hurts by Corbett and Fikkert

Up from Slavery by Booker T. Washington

The Autobiography of Malcom X as told to Alex Haley

Race the Power of An Illusion video series

Race the Power of An Illusion companion website

The Trouble with Racial Reconciliation by Dr. Kenneth Young

Divided by Faith by Emerson and Smith

Social Constructivism and Christianity by Stephen W. Jones

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